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>>reporter: now, pbs' jim le hrer airs tonight at 9:00 p.m. you can see it here on abc 2 news. according to the most recent cnn/rc poll, when you factor in the margin of error of 3 1/2 points, this race remains a dead heat. >> thanks, charley. >>> if you want to watch those debates with a big group of people would which could be pretty fun. you'll want to head to gillman. they'll be hosting an audience discussion about the debate and the campaign as well, as well as historical coverage of important moments in american electoral history. so this event begins at 8:30 tonight. you can always check it out. it ends around 10:30 this evening. >>> baltimore county police have made two arrests in a string of abductions that have happened in the area. abc 2 news' linda stow this morning is at police headquarters in the county with the very latest. and, linda, any new information this morning so far? >>reporter: police have released the suspect's identities. they are 21-year-old kenyon waller and 25-year-old william campbell, both of baltimore. they're being held without bond this mornin
>>reporter: now, pbs' jim le hrer airs tonight at 9:00 p.m. you can see it here on abc 2 news. according to the most recent cnn/rc poll, when you factor in the margin of error of 3 1/2 points, this race remains a dead heat. >> thanks, charley. >>> if you want to watch those debates with a big group of people would which could be pretty fun. you'll want to head to gillman. they'll be hosting an audience discussion about the debate and the campaign as well, as well as...
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i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things, and i like pbs, and i love big bird. i like you too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. [ screaming ] >> okay. the last part definitely doctored. we're just guessing that. fake big bird got right on to twitter in no time. by this morning big bird had almost 25,000 followers. look what big bird has been tweeting out. i like being able to fire people and large talking birds, mitt romney. 47% of chick-fil-a chickens think their victims -- birds of a feather collect food stamps together. mitt romney. i'm about to fly south for the tax season. caymen islandsbound, hash tag. breaking news, donald trump deman's to see big bird hatched eggs certificate. big bird is now trending big on social media. just take a look at some of the photoshop that is we've pulled up from the internet and there are hundreds. that's my favorite right there. we to cut off the expletive at the bottom. the mentions of big bir
i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things, and i like pbs, and i love big bird. i like you too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. [ screaming ] >> okay. the last part definitely doctored. we're just guessing that. fake big bird got right on to twitter in no time. by this morning big bird had almost 25,000 followers. look what big bird has been tweeting out. i like being able to fire people and large...
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romney not making any friends with pbs, the station is also fighting back on romney's plan to cut its fund-raising. and that romney does not understand the value americans place on public broadcasting, and the return in its investment. the corporation gets about $450 million a year. that might sound like a lot but it is just 1% of the entire federal budget and works out to just about $1.35 per american. as for the winners of the debate, well that goes to republican fund-raising. romney's super pac restore our future is not giving out any specific amounts but they did say the day after the debate is the best day it has had the entire campaign. the national republican senor toal committee send an email praising romney's performance and asking for support. more coming up next. we'll be right back. ♪ viewer for capella university. matter. >> i wouldn't be where i am today if it wasn't for capella university. i go to work every day and know that i make a difference. when patients leave this office they have hope in their eyes. it make me feel like i'm really doing what i was meant to do.
romney not making any friends with pbs, the station is also fighting back on romney's plan to cut its fund-raising. and that romney does not understand the value americans place on public broadcasting, and the return in its investment. the corporation gets about $450 million a year. that might sound like a lot but it is just 1% of the entire federal budget and works out to just about $1.35 per american. as for the winners of the debate, well that goes to republican fund-raising. romney's super...
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in 2010, the federal government gave $300 million to pbs of course is not chicken scratch but $30300 million is about 1/100 of 1% of the total federal budget. one thing is sure, firing big bird sure ain't going to fix the deficit. as you can imagine romney's big bird dis has not gone over well with the residents of "sesame street" including elmo who sat down with this exclusive interview with our own brett ehrlich. shh, brett's talking now. >> listen, i know how you can lose a debate but what i don't know is how you can lose a debate to a guy who during that debate said that he wanted to cancel "sesame street." when i say i'm fond of someone i don't then vow to fire them. i wanted to talk to someone that this statement might hurt the most and for that, we talked to my close personal friend, elmo. elmo, how are you feeling? >> elmo is trying to make this a learning experience. for example p is for positive. very well. >> elmo, that's so -- what do you mean you're not doing well? >> elmo is concerned for everyone on "sesame street." we already live on the street. >> so you really thing
in 2010, the federal government gave $300 million to pbs of course is not chicken scratch but $30300 million is about 1/100 of 1% of the total federal budget. one thing is sure, firing big bird sure ain't going to fix the deficit. as you can imagine romney's big bird dis has not gone over well with the residents of "sesame street" including elmo who sat down with this exclusive interview with our own brett ehrlich. shh, brett's talking now. >> listen, i know how you can lose a...
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president obama and governor romney appear on stage together, at the university of denver, jim lehrer of pbs will be the moderator for what could be potentially the most indepth and lively debates in memory. we'll zero in on domestic policy with a new format that allows for more interaction between the two candidates and more time to discuss a single topic. let's go back to the debate hall. chief political correspondent candy crowley watching what's going on. you'll be the moderator in the next presidential debate. so you will watch this about as closely as anyone. >> absolutely, wolf. you know, this is, in fact, an arena that they use here at the university -- let me explain this picture this is president obama headed toward this debate site, we know that mitt romney is already here, and i -- obviously this is quite the happening, so you see a lot of folks out on the street. in fact, when we came in, people were hanging signs from the dorm rooms. this is an arena. i'm told it's used for ice hockey and sometimes basketball. tonight, it's pure politics. not a lot of big names or familiar face
president obama and governor romney appear on stage together, at the university of denver, jim lehrer of pbs will be the moderator for what could be potentially the most indepth and lively debates in memory. we'll zero in on domestic policy with a new format that allows for more interaction between the two candidates and more time to discuss a single topic. let's go back to the debate hall. chief political correspondent candy crowley watching what's going on. you'll be the moderator in the next...
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i like pbs. i love big bird. >> tonight lamar burton with the real story about pbs. >> the real story? >> the real story. good to have you with us tonight folks. thanks for watching. the unemployment numbers for september were released today. it is good news for the american recovery. somebody said obama didn't know anything about the economy. well, forget that for now. the national unemployment rate fell to, count it, 7.8%. 114,000 jobs were added to the payrolls. an additional 86,000 were added to revisions for july and august. the labor force grew, my friends, by 418,000, which means the drop in unemployment is not due to people giving up on looking for work, which is a great republican talking point. president obama broke the news to supporters during a rally in virginia today. >> this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. >> the president made clear the economy i
i like pbs. i love big bird. >> tonight lamar burton with the real story about pbs. >> the real story? >> the real story. good to have you with us tonight folks. thanks for watching. the unemployment numbers for september were released today. it is good news for the american recovery. somebody said obama didn't know anything about the economy. well, forget that for now. the national unemployment rate fell to, count it, 7.8%. 114,000 jobs were added to the payrolls. an...
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i know my first thought, i thought it was a pbs pledge-a-thons because it looks like that. i don't know if they are giving away tote bags, but they are all reporters. there are hundreds of them. there's the spin aloe, just to the right, and so what's going to happen after the debate is that all the romney and obama forces come out in droves to tell you how brilliantly each side did while before the debate, up until now, they say each side is essentially an idiot. they can't debate, barely walk, talk, and chew gum at the same time. that's called lowering expectations. who can blame them? i built a career on it. this guy didn't have to do that. one of the most widely respected figures in washington. he is many say of national to denver himself. he could be in the presidential circle, senator john thune. good to see you, senator. >> good to see you and be with you as always. neil: i covered a few debates. we're going into them, each guy sells their guy to the closest thing as an idiot, and no matter how poorly he did, he's a genius. >> right. neil: what are we to derive from t
i know my first thought, i thought it was a pbs pledge-a-thons because it looks like that. i don't know if they are giving away tote bags, but they are all reporters. there are hundreds of them. there's the spin aloe, just to the right, and so what's going to happen after the debate is that all the romney and obama forces come out in droves to tell you how brilliantly each side did while before the debate, up until now, they say each side is essentially an idiot. they can't debate, barely walk,...
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i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> okay. mitt romney has never made it a secret he really likes firing people. he ruffled feathers when me proposed to cut federal funding for pbs. it wasn't because moderator jim lehrer worked for pbs since 1973. romney messed with the most popular bird in america, and twitter responded. big bird peaked at 17,000 tweets per minute and the #savesesamestreet became the top trending topic. >> i don't understand. you know, everything was just fine. why does it have to be this way? give me one good reason. >> well, that's the problem, pbs doesn't receive any direct money from the government. the government funds the corporation for public broadcasting, a profit -- a private non-profit corporation that distributes the subsidy to local pbs stations. in 2012, cpb was given $444.1 million. let's see. what is that? that's .012% of the federal budget. last year, pbs received just 5% of cpb's total appropria
i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> okay. mitt romney has never made it a secret he really likes firing people. he ruffled feathers when me proposed to cut federal funding for pbs. it wasn't because moderator jim lehrer worked for pbs since 1973. romney messed with the most popular bird in america, and twitter responded. big bird peaked at 17,000 tweets per minute and the...
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i like pbs. i like big bird, i actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money to borrow money to pay for it. >> so listen to this mention of big bird spiked by almost 800,000% right after that. still president obama and mitt romney were mentioned 12 times more than the big yellow bird. romney had 11% more facebook mentions than obama. overall yesterday, the president was mentioned a half a million times more than romney. >> i called big bird feathery and you called him furry. he is, in fact, feathery. >> he feels furry. >> there was more talk about the debate last night in late night. >> candidates decide who had would speak first by a coin toss which was confusing for mitt romney. they had to explain what a coin wasme was. he's never seen one of those. and tonight is the obama's 20th wedding anniversary. that seems very convenient. honey, i'd love to go to the ballet with you for our -- but i'm debating mitt romney that night. mitt, help me out, will you? >> now that first deba
i like pbs. i like big bird, i actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money to borrow money to pay for it. >> so listen to this mention of big bird spiked by almost 800,000% right after that. still president obama and mitt romney were mentioned 12 times more than the big yellow bird. romney had 11% more facebook mentions than obama. overall yesterday, the president was mentioned a half a million times more than romney. >> i called big bird feathery and you called...
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i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things. i love pbs and big bird, and i actually like you, too. lou: president obama not able to resist since then referring to big bird yesterday and today, and here's what he said. >> for all of you moms and kids out there, don' worry, somebody's finally getting tough on big bird. [cheers and applause] rounding him up. elmo's got to watch out too. governor romney plans to let wall street run wild, but he's bringing the hammer down on "sesame street," it makes sense. lou: the president was trying to make a joke, but, mr. president, wait a minute. turns out big bird is deserving of considerable public attention. upon further investigation, it appears the last thing the president should be doing is to minimize what's happening to the taxpayer money because of big bird, all his friends like elmo and jim lehrer. the president should be paying attention to the count to help him with the numbers, and the numbers are troubling. on a day in which the congressional budget office announced the 2012 bud
i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things. i love pbs and big bird, and i actually like you, too. lou: president obama not able to resist since then referring to big bird yesterday and today, and here's what he said. >> for all of you moms and kids out there, don' worry, somebody's finally getting tough on big bird. [cheers and applause] rounding him up. elmo's got to watch out too. governor romney plans to let wall street run wild, but he's bringing the hammer down on...
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and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: in just a few hours, president barack obama and former massachusetts governor mitt romney will take the stage at the university of denver's magness arena for the first of three election debates. tonight's encounter, moderated by the "newshour's" own jim lehrer, is to focus on domestic policy. the first half of the 90-minute face-off will be spent on the number one issue for most voters this year: the economy. joining us for the debate, and here with us now to preview what to expect tonight are two familiar faces syndicated columnist mark shields and "new york times" columnist david brooks. gentlemen, welcome. the night is finally here. mark, no pressure, just 60 million people will be watching. what are you looking for from tonighta encounter? >> what i'm looking for, judy, is that the-- the candidate who understands of the two that the most important thing is not making a mistake but really making a point as to what his presidency would be about. i think both
and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: in just a few hours, president barack obama and former massachusetts governor mitt romney will take the stage at the university of denver's magness arena for the first of three election debates. tonight's encounter, moderated by the "newshour's" own jim lehrer, is to focus on domestic policy. the first half of the 90-minute face-off will be spent on the number one issue for most voters this...
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i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep spending money on things -- >> let's -- >> let's get back to medicare. the president said the government could provide it at a lower cost without a profit. let's -- >> let's not. let's let him respond. let's let him respond to this specific on dodd/frank and what the governor just said. >> massachusetts governor mitt romney rolling over the debate moderator, jim lehrer, of pbs last night during the first presidential debate of this campaign season. joining us now for the interview is dan rather, host of "dan rather reports" on access tv. anchor of cbs' "evening news" for 20 years and a veteran observer of the campaigns. thank you. >> always a pleasure to be here. >> what is your reaction overall to the debate last night? i am assuing you think mitt romney won the debate. what do you think is important about it? >> i think what's important about it is it gives governor romney a chance to get a second look from the electorate. when he was
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. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and stop other things. i like pbs and i love big bird and i like you, too but i will not keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> chris: now was that smart, as a way to show that he is serious about cutting spending or always a mistake to take on big bird? >> well, y know, big bird is pretty popular but, you know, maybe the president would say big bird didn't build his own nest, i don't know. but, you know, i think that it is -- you know, it probably, you know, maybe not going after big bird, but, certainly, pbs, and, public broadcasting is popular in terms of taking them on in the spending, you know, on the spending side. i don't think he was going down the wrong path, maybe not with big bird. >> chris: a couple of minutes left. i want to look forward. what do you expect from this week's vice presidential debate between joe biden and paul ryan in. >> well, i am sure tha vice president biden got a phone call from the white house, and said, you know, look, we didn't go after
. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and stop other things. i like pbs and i love big bird and i like you, too but i will not keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> chris: now was that smart, as a way to show that he is serious about cutting spending or always a mistake to take on big bird? >> well, y know, big bird is pretty popular but, you know, maybe the president would say big bird didn't build his own nest, i don't...
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cutting pbs funding might not directly endanger big bird since "sesame street" gets most of its money from corporate funding and donations. still, mitt romney was depicted making big bird thanksgiving dinner. if romney wins, i die, but governor romney offered some hope. >> i'm not going to kill big bird, i promise, but there can be advertisements on pbs to help pay for big bird. big bird is going to have to get used to kell logs corn flakes. maybe this is what it would have sounded like. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> reporter: >> oh, that's too bad. >> reporter: if big bird joined the debate. >> i like pbs. >> reporter: >> oh. >> i like big bird. >> really. >> reporter: jeanne moos, new york. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye. victor blackwell is off today. it is 8:00 on the east coast, 5:00 a.m. out west. thanks so much for starting your day with us. we begin this hour with the latest jobs numbers. they are providing ammunition in the battle for the white house. the labor department says 114,000 jobs were created in september with the unemployment rate coming i
cutting pbs funding might not directly endanger big bird since "sesame street" gets most of its money from corporate funding and donations. still, mitt romney was depicted making big bird thanksgiving dinner. if romney wins, i die, but governor romney offered some hope. >> i'm not going to kill big bird, i promise, but there can be advertisements on pbs to help pay for big bird. big bird is going to have to get used to kell logs corn flakes. maybe this is what it would have...
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pbs subsidy, $444 million. but if you look at the tax breaks to oil and gas companies that romney defended last night, those add up to $4 billion this year alone. and take a look at mitt romney's plan for the defense budget. he wants to increase spending by $2 trillion over the next ten years. so, i mean, big bird is a big diversion to what he's really talking about in terms of the deficit. >> well, i think those of us out here crave specifics from governor romney. and when he's talked about this in the past, he's often thrown big bird under the bus. i don't know what would happen if he threw big bird under the bass. maybe the bus would go off the road. but never the let's, he has this little set piece he does. do you want to know what i'll cut? i'll cut pbs and big bird, the national endowment of humanities and the amtrak subsidy. you add that all up, those are the only specifics we've gotten out of him during this campaign about budget cuts, and you get $2 million mainly because the amtrak subsidy 1.4. so tha
pbs subsidy, $444 million. but if you look at the tax breaks to oil and gas companies that romney defended last night, those add up to $4 billion this year alone. and take a look at mitt romney's plan for the defense budget. he wants to increase spending by $2 trillion over the next ten years. so, i mean, big bird is a big diversion to what he's really talking about in terms of the deficit. >> well, i think those of us out here crave specifics from governor romney. and when he's talked...
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. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things. i love big bird and i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for are it. >> was that smart as a way to show that he is serious about cutting spend or is it always a mistake to take on big bird? >> well, big bird is pretty popular but maybe the president would say big bird didn't build his own nest, i don't know. but i think that it is -- it probably maybe not going after big bird but is certainly pbs and public broadcasting is popular in terms of taking them on in the spending side. i don't think he was going down the wrong path. maybe not so much with big bird. >> chris: a couple of minutes left. i want to look forward. what do you expect from this week's vice presidential debate between joe biden and paul ryan? >> well, i am sure that vice president biden got a phone call from the white house and said you know look, we didn't go after governor romney as much and so you have got to turn up the heat. because the deba
. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things. i love big bird and i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for are it. >> was that smart as a way to show that he is serious about cutting spend or is it always a mistake to take on big bird? >> well, big bird is pretty popular but maybe the president would say big bird didn't build his own nest, i don't know. but i think that it is...
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megyn: jim lehrer of pbs will be moderating. they devote the rest of the 15-minute block to a discussion. so hopefully there will be a chance to press the candidates for followup, or real answers if they try to dodge. because you know and our viewers know having watched 25 presidential debates during the primaries, they all do it. they dodge. they hear this is a question on jobs. what's my policy on jobs, this what is i'm going to say without necessarily answering the question asked. hopefully the mat, the discussion after the initial response will give us a chance to hear real answers. having studies up on these debates it seems like the need many gets moved not so much by these soaring rhetorical moment but by a gafer that one of them may have or by one moment of connection that they may have with the viewers at home. ronald reagan, there you go again. bill: i think you make a great point on that. what you are saying is it's built in a format that will help encourage robust exchanges that would alloy the other to challenge the
megyn: jim lehrer of pbs will be moderating. they devote the rest of the 15-minute block to a discussion. so hopefully there will be a chance to press the candidates for followup, or real answers if they try to dodge. because you know and our viewers know having watched 25 presidential debates during the primaries, they all do it. they dodge. they hear this is a question on jobs. what's my policy on jobs, this what is i'm going to say without necessarily answering the question asked. hopefully...
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i like pbs. i like big bird and i like you too but i'm not going to keep on spending money from things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> let's get back to medicare. the president said he can provide the service at a lower cost at a lower profit. let me mention the other one. wlets talk. >> no, let's not. let's let him respond to this specific dodd frank and what the governor just said. >> gene? >> this was a tangle if guy seemed to win every team. they never discussed the auto industry. 1k5e >> they didn't discuss the auto industry chen me talked about tax reform. romney was asked, what deductions are you going to get rid of. home mortgage deduction? no specifics. if jim wasn't going to ask the follow-up question. >> he didn't ask any follow-up questions. >> so the president should have asked those questions, i think. >> joy, try this. you mentioned the president came in there to sort of, you know, clinch, if you will, keep the score even and don't overstate anything and don't make it
i like pbs. i like big bird and i like you too but i'm not going to keep on spending money from things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> let's get back to medicare. the president said he can provide the service at a lower cost at a lower profit. let me mention the other one. wlets talk. >> no, let's not. let's let him respond to this specific dodd frank and what the governor just said. >> gene? >> this was a tangle if guy seemed to win every team. they never...
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i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like big bird. i cannot keep spending money to borrow from china to pay for it. i will take programs that are good programs but will be run more officially at the state level. i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees and combine some agencies. my cutbacks will be done through attrition. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. he doubled it. trillion-dollar deficits for the last four years. the president has put in place almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> when i walked into the oval office i had more than a trillion dollar deficit greeting me. we know where it came from. two wars paid for on a credit card, two cuts that are not pay for, programs that were not paid for, a massive economic crisis. despite that, yes, we had to take some emergency measures to make sure we did not slip into a great depression. let's make sure we are cutting out things that are not helping us grow. 77 government programs from aircrafts th
i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like big bird. i cannot keep spending money to borrow from china to pay for it. i will take programs that are good programs but will be run more officially at the state level. i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees and combine some agencies. my cutbacks will be done through attrition. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. he doubled it. trillion-dollar deficits for the last four years. the president...
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." >> he just told the moderator, who works at pbs, i'm going to throw your ass out on the street, old man. you, not only you, but all those free-loading muppets. that takes, not just one ball, but two. two, enormous balls. >> romney could have waterboarded aladdin, put down blue, deported dora the explorer, and won walking away. he won with the sound up. >> you're entitled to your own airplane, and your own house. >> romney won with the sound off. dude, he's yelling at you. look up. what are you looking at? what are you writing that's so important? what are you doing? oh. that is impressive work. >> the only thing that could have salvaged obama's performance last night, is if the body of bin laden fell from the ceiling on to the stage. >> here's the category. president obama excuses. everybody is saying, today, what was wrong? he was off his game. where did he go? he didn't challenge. he wasn't ready. ill-prepared. not out there. no tiger in the eye. and mitt got, you know, if i didn't know better, you would think he was full of coffee. so, now, president obama, excuses. i called some
." >> he just told the moderator, who works at pbs, i'm going to throw your ass out on the street, old man. you, not only you, but all those free-loading muppets. that takes, not just one ball, but two. two, enormous balls. >> romney could have waterboarded aladdin, put down blue, deported dora the explorer, and won walking away. he won with the sound up. >> you're entitled to your own airplane, and your own house. >> romney won with the sound off. dude, he's...
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obama spoke mostly to the moderator, jim lehrer of pbs. >> we still have trillion dollar deficits. the cbo says we'll have a trillion dollar deficit each of the next four years. >> reporter: these two men, they are virtually strangers to each other personally. they've only met in person three times before tonight. most recently, in passing, on a debate stage in new hampshire way back in 2008, when republicans followed democrats in debate three days before the primaries. and there was this brief encounter on the campaign trail in 2007. >> good luck to you today. >> reporter: and while they have both reached the pinnacle of party politics, they are so different. their talents and their paths to power and their debate styles. so much at stake on that stage tonight. this showdown comes at what might be the critical moment in this campaign. a hinge of political history. polls show the race tightening, just 34 days left in this campaign. and you can already sense in the crowds the special energy of the home stretch. but tonight, surprisingly, and in contrast to the daily scrap on the tra
obama spoke mostly to the moderator, jim lehrer of pbs. >> we still have trillion dollar deficits. the cbo says we'll have a trillion dollar deficit each of the next four years. >> reporter: these two men, they are virtually strangers to each other personally. they've only met in person three times before tonight. most recently, in passing, on a debate stage in new hampshire way back in 2008, when republicans followed democrats in debate three days before the primaries. and there...